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I agreed the CES was probably caused by an untreated herniated disc. Moriau herself reports that her doctor in 1968 missed a protruding disc during a surgery and she was so disgusted she had to find another surgeon.

However, from the article your AI cited (twice) about spontaneous regression of herniated discs (not CES):

Review methods: Articles had to: (1) include patients with lumbar disc herniation treated conservatively; (2) have at least two imaging evaluations of the lumbar spine; and (3) exclude patients with prior lumbar surgery, spinal infections, tumors, spondylolisthesis, or spinal stenosis.

So the cases determining the rate of spontaneous regression are not parallel at all to Moriau’s, who had prior lumbar surgery (and CES definitely seems to qualify as spinal stenosis as well).

Additionally, I looked at the case reports cited in your article of regression. These almost all happened within

the span of a few weeks. The rare ones that are longer are a year or two at most. 40+ year spontaneous regression of an untreated herniated disc falls right off the scale, especially because it seems her doctors knew about it after the botched surgery in 1968.

Maybe I missed something, but a spontaneous herniated disc healing doesn’t seem like it would apply in this case at all. I think the AI might have either mildly hallucinated on you or, at very least, cited studies that aren’t relevant to this case.

From what I’ve gathered (I am even more of a non-doctor than you, so take my word saltily) Untreated CES is like asking, “what if we just left this guy’s nearly amputated leg dangling?” Like, the doctors are going to look at you funny. It’s going to be bad.

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If we accept eyewitness accounts as authoritative then the temple of Aescepilus is full of them. Problem is the Catholic demands miracles as proof not just of divine favor but their specific take on the divine. So any competition is treated with the same skepticism applied here, or written off as demons in the biggest double standard cope.

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