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Tower of Babble's avatar

The woolery interaction was kinda hilarious. To be fair, Woolery was *100%* egging him on a bit (I'm uneducated on demonology! I'll need you to teach me more about that! Like come on, clear rage bait lol, still funny though) but it seemed like a crazy escalation considering Woolery clearly just wanted out of the convo, and the reasonable response was to... threaten him with eternal damnation? Anyway, I think I'm generally less BB critical (and I guess Ethan Muse critical now) than a lot of others but a lot of these particular interactions have just seemed like a massive failure at room-reading.

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At the end of things, I was definitely egging him on too, especially the end where I said he lost the argument and that he was crashing out.

But it was annoying because I was trying to be nice and he was being kind of a jerk! If anyone is confused enough to think I’m snarky, just know that I hold back like crazy.

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He probably poisoned the well by bragging about how smart his friend is. And to be 100% fair, out of curiosity, I googled this guy and he’s like the best student of his major at Michigan (forgot if it was philosophy or comp sci or both), so he’s definitely super smart! It would have played much better if he didn’t do that (Also: the smartest people I know, when I think about it, are a little idiosyncratic or even obsessive fwiw).

I don’t begrudge any of these people, we’re all humans acting human. But like come on, be a little less serious, accept the snark or don’t be snarky haha None of this is consequential, if any of them are reading this somehow, I totally respect people dismissing us as morons and not engaging, but it’s when you do the other stuff that comes off as annoying.

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Yea kinda agree, fwiw the Ethan guy is clearly smart, I think the article is quite good. But also, sometimes you need some perspective.

Ian Jobling's avatar

Just a reminder that you can mute BB or anyone else who annoys you. He's very good at attracting attention and triggering people, but you don't need to fall for it. There are many quieter voices on Substack who are much more worth reading.

Joe James's avatar

I typically do that, but I’m also a fan of making content that says “hey look at this guy!”

It unfortunately does numbers.

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Sep 15, 2025
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Joe James's avatar

I’m an email marketing guy, buttons are a good pause for breath!

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Sep 9, 2025
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Joe James's avatar

I too sit at the kid’s table though!

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Sep 9, 2025
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Joe James's avatar

Why thank you! But I'm honestly just have an ironic attachment to it all, like I don't take any of this stuff *too* seriously because I don't see it as too consequential. For instance, I'm more upset that my favorite college football team hasn't scored an offensive touchdown in 2 games than I am that I had a negative interaction with Muse. I think the world would be a better place if the people writing these things took themselves similarly less seriously!

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Joe James's avatar

I’m not joking when I say, just perusing substack casually, you can see his snark everywhere, as well as his orbiters. There’s nothing wrong with snark! As long as you can say “yeah that was a little bad, my bad” apologize and move on. But the policing is so silly and clearly self-serving.